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		<title>By: AaronLS</title>
		<link>http://arcanecode.com/2008/03/04/differencing-disks-in-virtual-pc-2007/#comment-27595</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if it would be advantagious to disable virtual memory on the base before you save and compact it, then enable it again on the child machines, since the base will be taking up 1gig(if that&#039;s how big your page file is) as well as 1 gig on the child(because it is going to generate data in the child as memory is paged to the pagefile essentially wasting an extra gigabyte of space).

However this means you need to remember everytime you create a new child to enable the page file for that child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it would be advantagious to disable virtual memory on the base before you save and compact it, then enable it again on the child machines, since the base will be taking up 1gig(if that&#8217;s how big your page file is) as well as 1 gig on the child(because it is going to generate data in the child as memory is paged to the pagefile essentially wasting an extra gigabyte of space).</p>
<p>However this means you need to remember everytime you create a new child to enable the page file for that child.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The down side to differencing disks is speed, because they are in multiple files the performance won’t be as great.&quot;

While I haven&#039;t tried this yet, I would imagine that if you have multiple hard drives, you could put the base on one and the differencing on another, and might possibly obtain a performance improvement over having a single image on one hard drive.  Even if not that performant, it should still be a big improvement over having the base and differencing on the same platter.

To James: yes, it does get slower the more levels of differencing you have.  Similarly, Hyper-V snapshots are slower when there are more levels (not necessarily more snapshots -- with 20 snapshots, all from the same base, there&#039;s only one &quot;level&quot; when running any of them (and 2 VHDs to look in); but with 20 snapshots, each taken from the preceding snapshot, then there would be 20 VHDs that the system may need to look in to find a file).

Cheers,
Ken]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The down side to differencing disks is speed, because they are in multiple files the performance won’t be as great.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I haven&#8217;t tried this yet, I would imagine that if you have multiple hard drives, you could put the base on one and the differencing on another, and might possibly obtain a performance improvement over having a single image on one hard drive.  Even if not that performant, it should still be a big improvement over having the base and differencing on the same platter.</p>
<p>To James: yes, it does get slower the more levels of differencing you have.  Similarly, Hyper-V snapshots are slower when there are more levels (not necessarily more snapshots &#8212; with 20 snapshots, all from the same base, there&#8217;s only one &#8220;level&#8221; when running any of them (and 2 VHDs to look in); but with 20 snapshots, each taken from the preceding snapshot, then there would be 20 VHDs that the system may need to look in to find a file).</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://arcanecode.com/2008/03/04/differencing-disks-in-virtual-pc-2007/#comment-25938</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know if there is a performance hit with differencing disks having more .vhd files to deal with?
I.e. will it get much slower the more levels of differencing you have?

I&#039;m creating virtual machines mostly so they can be moved around when we get new PCs.
They don&#039;t get created and thrown away that often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know if there is a performance hit with differencing disks having more .vhd files to deal with?<br />
I.e. will it get much slower the more levels of differencing you have?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m creating virtual machines mostly so they can be moved around when we get new PCs.<br />
They don&#8217;t get created and thrown away that often.</p>
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		<title>By: arcanecode</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, let me apologize for the lame answer but I&#039;ve been at TechEd for the last fourteen hours so I&#039;m a little fried. 

I seem to recall there is an issue with Undo Disks and differencing disks, but can&#039;t recall exactly what it is. I&#039;ll try and ask around tomorrow and see what I can come up with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, let me apologize for the lame answer but I&#8217;ve been at TechEd for the last fourteen hours so I&#8217;m a little fried. </p>
<p>I seem to recall there is an issue with Undo Disks and differencing disks, but can&#8217;t recall exactly what it is. I&#8217;ll try and ask around tomorrow and see what I can come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Upton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a small issue with the Undo Disks option on my virtual machines. I have the option selected for all my different machines. But for some reason, only one of the machines (Windows Server 2008) asks to save changes. All the rest just close and never ask me if I wish to save any of the changes. Any suggestions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a small issue with the Undo Disks option on my virtual machines. I have the option selected for all my different machines. But for some reason, only one of the machines (Windows Server 2008) asks to save changes. All the rest just close and never ask me if I wish to save any of the changes. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: vmc vhd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] an existing one. But there??s a better way: differencing disks. Differencing disks allow you tohttp://arcanecode.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/differencing-disks-in-virtual-pc-2007/VMware Communities: Convert a MS vmc to VMWare ...After I downloaded the three files and extracted [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Virtual PC and SQL Server 2008 &#171; SQL Dev&#8217;s Playground</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: William Wan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Wan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Arcane!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Arcane!</p>
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		<title>By: arcanecode</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi William,

As far as I can tell, and let me stress I AM NOT A LAWYER so this is not legal advice, just what I can figure out, the only need for a license key is for the base machine you inherit from. From there on out no matter how many differencing machines you create technically you are running the original OS. 

On question 2, No, from what I have read the base cannot be patched which is one of the drawbacks. If you patch it (or change it in any way) you break all the machines it descends to. It&#039;s one of the few drawbacks to the way it works, any service packs, hotfixes, or patches have to be applied to the children. 

   Arcane]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi William,</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, and let me stress I AM NOT A LAWYER so this is not legal advice, just what I can figure out, the only need for a license key is for the base machine you inherit from. From there on out no matter how many differencing machines you create technically you are running the original OS. </p>
<p>On question 2, No, from what I have read the base cannot be patched which is one of the drawbacks. If you patch it (or change it in any way) you break all the machines it descends to. It&#8217;s one of the few drawbacks to the way it works, any service packs, hotfixes, or patches have to be applied to the children. </p>
<p>   Arcane</p>
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		<title>By: William Wan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Wan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post!

Two questions for you, 1. on each of the Differencing Disk, is there a need to require a Windows license key? Since the OS bits are not on the differencing disks, so may be not ... ? 2. Can the Base Disk be patched? Say we need to apply a Service Pack or whatever on it after Differencing Disks been created? If we can patch the Base and it automatically applies to all Differencing Disks afterwards, then no need to patch each of every DD&#039;s.

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post!</p>
<p>Two questions for you, 1. on each of the Differencing Disk, is there a need to require a Windows license key? Since the OS bits are not on the differencing disks, so may be not &#8230; ? 2. Can the Base Disk be patched? Say we need to apply a Service Pack or whatever on it after Differencing Disks been created? If we can patch the Base and it automatically applies to all Differencing Disks afterwards, then no need to patch each of every DD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Barnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Robert.  Nice Post.  I knew you could do this, but I never have sat down to figure out all of the steps.  Thanks for saving me the trouble.  I&#039;ll be setting up some of these in a few weeks when my new laptop arrives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Robert.  Nice Post.  I knew you could do this, but I never have sat down to figure out all of the steps.  Thanks for saving me the trouble.  I&#8217;ll be setting up some of these in a few weeks when my new laptop arrives.</p>
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